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  • On Health Care Reform, Nebraskans Know Ben Nelson Better

    by: Kyle Michaelis

    Sun Aug 02, 2009 at 01:09:02 AM CDT


    Democracy For America and the Progressive Change Campaign Committee have taken aim at Senator Ben Nelson with an ad that unfortunately confuses a commendable message on the urgency of health care reform with a cheap and ultimately destructive attack on Sen. Nelson.

    In the ad, Mike Snider of Ralston explains the horrible choices and dangerous consequences he faces as a small businessman and father under our current health care system.  The sad thing is that the first thirty seconds of the ad deliver exactly what the people of Nebraska need to hear.  But, then - for no good reason - it adopts a gun-to-the-side-of-the-head-approach to winning over Ben Nelson's vote that unfairly accuses him of "leading the charge to delay health care reform."  That's not at all an accurate depiction of the role Nelson has actually played.

    If Snider is looking for those who are truly "leading the charge to delay health care reform," he needs to look no further than his other Senator, Mike Johanns, or his Republican Congressman, Lee Terry.  In fact, Snider should have seen Terry in action throughout the House Energy & Commerce Committee's mark-up of HR 3200, during which Terry cast vote after vote against the very sorts of reform he so desperately needs.

    Look, I would love to see more genuine progressive leadership from Nelson on the issue of health care reform.  But, at the same time, I appreciate that Nelson approaches this issue from a radically different place than most liberal Democrats.  He doesn't perceive the same inherent competition between corporate interests and the needs of the people.  His approach isn't quite "what's good for Blue Cross is good for Nebraska," but I can't say that's too far off the mark.

    This isn't something new.  This is who Ben Nelson is - and what the people of Nebraska voted for in their two-term Democratic Governor and U.S. Senator.  As frustrating as that may be in the present case, it's a choice we've made as Democrats and as Nebraskans - one we certainly didn't regret when it meant taking the majority in the U.S. Senate after the 2006 election.

    It's cheap and unfair to reduce Nelson's well-known philosophical difference with the left-wing of the Democratic Party to just some insidious instance of quid pro quo.  That's what this ad does in its second half - accomplishing absolutely nothing but giving the Nebraska Republican Party the best gift it could have hoped for as it works to claim Nelson's seat in 2012.

    This ad is lose-lose for anyone who really cares about health care reform.  No one who actually lives in our state would kid themselves about how far we have to go winning over the people of Nebraska on this issue.  This attack obscures the urgency of reform in favor of taking cheap shots at Nelson.  At the same time, it makes it a liability for Nelson should he eventually stand with us for reform, opening him to attack for bending to pressure from liberal special interest groups that have nothing at stake in the future of our state.

    I haven't hesitated to challenge Nelson when he's been wrong about health care reform.  I will continue to do so.  But, we cheapen our cause by stooping to these sorts of attacks against an ally like Nelson - just to keep him in line - rather than focusing on winning over the people on the merit of our ideas.

    Meanwhile, we who are actually working to build something here in Nebraska don't have the luxury of imagining Ben Nelson is our worst enemy.  We know better.  No matter our occasional differences, we know Nelson is our one elected representative who will listen to our concerns - our one representative with whom we can actually work.

    Most importantly, we know our Democratic Senator well enough not to tolerate his being reduced to some cartoonish slave to insurance industry money  while he struggles to do what's best for the people of Nebraska.  That's not the Ben Nelson we know nor the Ben Nelson we trust to continue working on behalf of every Nebraskan.

    Kyle Michaelis :: On Health Care Reform, Nebraskans Know Ben Nelson Better
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    Once again, Kyle... (0.00 / 0)
    you have proven that you are not willing to hold Nelson accountable for anything.  We all appreciate your finger wagging whenever Nelson does something that even you cannot abide, but for criticism to be meaningful it has to come with, at least, the threat of consequences.

    There is nothing about this ad which is dishonest.  There is nothing about this ad which constitutes a "cheap shot" at Nelson.  Nothing in this ad reduces Nelson "to some cartoonish slave to insurance industry money."  Nowhere in this ad does the phrase, "what's good for Blue Cross is good for Nebraska," appear.  I googled the phrase.  The lone result is this diary.  I'm assuming you fabricated it from whole cloth.  If that is not the case, please provide links to support your citation.

    What the ad does is try to push Nelson in the right direction.  Nelson has given the impression that he can be moved on this issue.  But, it's only going to happen if we hold his feet to the fire.  You, it seems, would rather anoint them with oils.  Mary Magdalene would be proud.

    As for why the ad is not directed at Johanns, Nelson is a player in this debate.  Johanns is not.  Criticizing Johanns for the delays in healthcare reform would be like criticizing a towel boy because his team didn't reach the Super Bowl.  We'd all love it if Johanns voted with us on healthcare.  But that ain't gonna happen.  If it did, it would make him the most progressive senator in Nebraska.  Then what?


    The Democrats' weakness makes me sick (0.00 / 0)
    All we need here is a an up or down vote on health care in Senate.  We can have all of the Republicans and 9 Democratic Senators vote against it, and it will still pass.  All we're asking is Senator Nelson not join the Republicans in filibustering a major plank of his new president's agenda.

    Republicans don't have this problem.  Look at the Chuck Grassley the "moderate" Republican Senator from Iowa.  Iowa is a state that Barack Obama won by 9 percentage points, has a Democratic governor, and a Democratic senator.  Is Chuck worried about his left?  No.  Right now he is running to the right as hard as he can to avoid a primary challenge.

    Yet we Democrats object to someone making Ben Nelson look foolish?  


    [ Parent ]
    re: Blue Cross (0.00 / 0)
    It was never implied that this phrase came anywhere but from myself.  The quotation marks are only to play up the obvious parallel to the traditional "what's good for GM is good for America"-philosophy that is so deeply engrained in America's political culture.

    As for the ad, I believe in accountability.  That's not achieved by insulting Nelson's integrity with vague allegations of impropriety.

    The senator Nelson campaigned as - the man Nebraskans have come to know and to trust over these last two decades - was never going to be the leader some of us would want on health care reform.  He needs convincing, as does the vast majority of our state.  That ultimate goal might be a whole lot easier if Nelson would stake his credibility in favor or our ideas early-on in the debate, but I don't see our struggle advanced by efforts to shatter that credibility we've relied on in the past and will no doubt look to in the future.

    This is a complicated issue.  I would suggest that keeping faith with the people of Nebraska might mean leading them down a road they're not sure they want to follow - because it's right and because it can't wait any longer.  But, this is a democracy.  What the people want can't be wholly dismissed in pursuit of what the people need.  Nelson's choices as our representative are certain to reflect that struggle, no matter how much we might hope that Nelson emerges as the progressive leader we haven't elected but so desperately need.


    [ Parent ]
    How does the ad... (0.00 / 0)
    insult Nelson's integrity?  It asks Nelson to "stay at work."  If it were insulting his integrity there would be no reason to encourage him to do so.


    [ Parent ]
    As a Liberal from Nebraska ... (0.00 / 0)
    I resent the constant mantra that there is no place in this state for us. There are more of us than many would have you believe. There are enough of us, that genuinely care about the issues that we support, to bring Sen. Ben Nelson down.

    If Sen. Nelson wants to play hardball by making his threats, then I say, "Let the games begin."

    I agree with you, Kyle, when you write, "... Nelson approaches this issue from a radically different place than most liberal Democrats ..." He has been approaching it from the place where his corporate bosses, and his Republican allies, have dictated.

    You cannot say that I am one of those "liberal special interest groups that have nothing at stake in the future of our state." Kyle, I have been a citizen of Nebraska longer than you have lived, and I definitely have something at stake here.

    If Sen. Nelson wants to play the game by making threats, then he'd better be thinking about making his switch to the Republican Party, because he has been wearing out his welcome with many of us Democrats in this state.


    It's interesting... (0.00 / 0)
    that Nelson talks so much about bipartisanship, yet "bipartisanship" to him means working with just a few people from the Right.  It would be a breath of fresh air to see Nelson reach out to progressives and liberals for a change.

    It would be interesting to see Nelson switch parties.  I wonder what his Democratic supporters would do.


    [ Parent ]
    hilarious (0.00 / 0)
    Brian - you've been working against Nelson for years. and after all your hard work the one who lost his job is you! Nelson is still your US Senator!


    [ Parent ]
    Lost? (0.00 / 0)
    Hruska's Colon,

    Ben Nelson has been working against Nebraska's Democrats for years, therefore, I have indeed been working against him.

    As for losing my job, I actually have plenty of work right now. I voluntarily left my "position" in the NDP so that I could, among other things, have more time for my "job," you know, the thing that pays the bills.

    Nelson may be a United States Senator from Nebraska, but I lay no claim to him.


    [ Parent ]
    PCCC head Adam Green just called out Kyle on this post (0.00 / 0)
    I'm just the messenger folks:

    http://openleft.com/diary/1445...

    What?? This is the state's "premiere source of progressive online political commentary?" Sounds more like a bad DSCC fundraising pitch. "The Ben Nelson we trust to continue working on behalf of every Nebraskan." Pathetic.

    Notice how Kyle completely excused Nelson's millions from out-of-state insurance companies. And notice how Kyle took a progressive position supported by 76% of Americans and tried to marginalize it as solely the "left-wing of the Democratic Party." Again, pathetic.

    And saying Nelson actively working against his constituents and lying to them is "what the people of Nebraska voted for?" P-a-t-h-e-t-i-c.

    Actually, shameful. Kyle Michaelis is either a complete party hack or he was once a progressive who has now been co-opted by party hacks. But there's one thing he is not: the state's "premiere source of progressive online political commentary."



    Well, while I certainly don't agree with Kyle on this... (0.00 / 0)
    I think calling him a "fake progressive blogger" and "party hack" is out of line.  I think the post could have been just as effective without all the name calling.


    [ Parent ]
    Why? (4.00 / 1)
    Darwin,

    First of all, great comment up above. I quoted it prominently in my OpenLeft post. (Would you consider starting your own blog? Nebraska needs it.)

    Second, I don't see why calling people adjectives that are accurate is "out of line." For instance, Ben Nelson is a liar. He called the public option a "deal breaker" and then after progressives challenged him, he told the Huffington Post he'd never been against it -- always been open to it. Lie. He says that those attacking him were for single-payer, when the line of argument was clearly and unambiguously for the public option. Another lie. He has no problem lying to his constituents, so why is it impolite or over the line to insert some accountability by calling the truth the truth. If anything, not telling the truth when bad actors are being bad actors is out of line for anyone who believes in honest debate.

    In Kyle's case, he is most certainly a party hack over being a progressive blogger. Just read the stuff above. Kyle says don't criticize Nelson for undermining a once-in-a-lifetime health reform opportunity because it'll "give the Nebraska Republican Party the best gift it could have hoped for as it works to claim Nelson's seat in 2012."

    What?? This isn't about 2012. This is about millions of people's lives. If he doesn't get that, he's a party hack.

    Ben Nelson "struggles to do what's best for the people of Nebraska" and is "the Ben Nelson we trust to continue working on behalf of every Nebraskan."

    What?? Did the Ben Nelson Dept. of Propaganda personally write that for Kyle? That's absurd. Ben Nelson is doing the insurance industry's bidding. We cannot "trust" him "to continue working on behalf of every Nebraskan" -- we need to hold him accountable. But Kyle's giving us party talking points...bad ones at that.

    76% of Americans and 71% of rural Americans support the public option. We can pass something previously unthinkable. But it requires anyone who calls themselves progressive to stand up and be counted. Darwin, in your comment above, you did that. Props to you.

    Kyle didn't do that. He used this post to suck up to Ben Nelson, state things that are flagrantly incorrect, issue party talking points, and be an apologist for a politician who is putting his insurance industry contributors (83% out of state) above his constituents.

    Shame on Ben Nelson. Shame on Kyle. And yes, Kyle is a party hack...and yes, it's ok to say that.


    [ Parent ]
    Ummm..... (0.00 / 0)
    Adam.....as a lifelong Nebraska, I take offense to an out-of-stater like yourself coming in, insulting someone who has been a good and effective progressive voice in this state and who knows and lives Nebraska politics. I get so sick of people like you coming in and telling use what we should think, and how stupid you think we are if we don't fall in line with your out-of-state ideals. Quite frankly, you can shove it.

    Darwin is a Nebraskan. Those that have posted in the past who have a passionate dislike for Nelson are Nebraskans. I happen to be a Nebraska Democrat who, like Kyle, supports Nelson, and I know a lot of others who think the same way, just as I know many who think like Darwin. Welcome to the party of the big tent.

    But your post on Open Left, and your comments here? You, sir, are nothing but a hack yourself. YOU and YOUR ATTITUDE is the reason that the GOP in this state continues to survive and thrive. Nelson's staff wasn't exaggerating when they said YOUR ADS lead to more calls AGAINST what your promoting rather than you what you are for. I've witnessed this phenomenon personally. And this happens because YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND NEBRASKA!! You're not just reaching the progressives (who are a minority in this state), you're spurring on the majority. Until you, and othe out-of-staters that come in and think they know better than the stupid rural hicks, get off your high horse, you will ALWAYS fail.

    Bottom line? I will continue to respectfully disagree but listen to the opinions of someone like Darwin, because I believe he truly understands and loves this state. I will also continue to consider and agree or disagree with Kyle, because I believe he also understands and loves this state. YOU, however, can stick your opinion where the sun don't shine.


    [ Parent ]
    Please defend Nelson (0.00 / 0)
    Lisa,

    I don't think that most thoughtful people will buy your idea that someone who is not physically in Nebraska cannot have a legitimate opinion about strategy on this blog.

    So, how about you stick to the substance. Please, go ahead and defend Nelson undermining the public option. Explain why that is ok.

    I'll offer a substantive strategic comment that you can feel free to rebut: The public option is immensely popular. Assuming Ben Nelson is acting out of political risk aversion (as opposed to just being bought off by out-of-state health and insurance interests), he is operating under the false conventional wisdom that Nebraska is a red state and therefore he needs to act like a Republican to be popular.

    Wrong. While folks may be culturally conservative, prairie populism is alive and well...economic populism is a political winner, not a political loser. That means progressives are urging Ben Nelson to make himself MORE popular and politically viable -- by endorsing the position that 76% of Americans and 71% of rural Americans support -- not less popular.

    I saw this for myself when I spent a year in South Dakota campaigning for Tim Johnson is the terrible Democratic year of 2002. We won. By 500 votes. Why? Because culturally conservative, church-going, gun-owning farmers and ranchers voted for Tim Johnson. Why did they do that? He fought hard on economic populism issues. If Johnson had pretended to be a Republican on those issues, the election would have been fought on other issues and he would have lost. If Ben Nelson isn't distinguishable from Republicans on economic issues like health care, his election will be about abortion and other wedge issues -- that's what you want as a Nebraskan Democrat?

    So there, I just gave you a substantive strategic reason why Nelson representing the interests of his constituents and backing a public option isn't just excellent public policy but moves him from the politically unpopular position to the political winner.

    Your turn. Say something substantive.

    Adam


    [ Parent ]
    So..... (0.00 / 0)
    ...why have you attacked Kyle? Because you disagree with him?

    I'm happy you worked in SD. I'm sure you learned a lot in that campaign. I had the privilege of working with Drey Samuelson in 2006 and had messaging conversations with him. He's from Nebraska.

    But SD is a bit more Democratic than Nebraska (48.2% Rep, 33.9% Dem in Nebraska, versus 45.5% Rep and 38.5% Dem in SD).

    Anyway, you want to attack and accuse Nelson of all kinds of things, (which turns a lot of Nebraskans off) but you instead choose to then attack someone who may not agree with your approach. Since you get paid and Kyle doesn't, I guess we can then call YOU a PAID political hack. After all, you're paid to spread a pre-determined message. If you get paid enough, will your next project be to stand for something totally opposite?

    Way to really earn respect in this state.  


    [ Parent ]
    Sorry, Lisa (1.00 / 1)
    But you didn't carry the burden of proof. I did.

    I'm not "attacking Kyle because I disagree with him." If he wrote on a blog that claimed to be the state's "premiere source for stale conventional wisdom and party hackery" I wouldn't have written anything. People have a right to speak.

    But how dare someone claim to write for the "premiere source of progressive online political commentary" and then A) marginalize public option supporters the "left-wing of the Democratic Party", B) Say that anyone who attacks Ben Nelson is helping Republicans in 2012 (which puts party above all else and is a recipe for zero accountability from Democratic politicians), and C) Completely write-off Nelson's out-of-state millions from health and insurance interests, as if it is completely off-limits and silly to bring that up as he works to undermine the public option.

    The public option fight is the most important vote Ben Nelson will likely ever take, and for the rest of us, it is the fight of our lifetimes. Progressives need to stand up and be counted. Ben Nelson is failing the public, we called him out, and Kyle had a choice to make. He chose to bask progressives.

    He can have that opinion of progressives, that's his right. But he can't then claim to be one. And you don't need to be a Nebraskan to point that out.


    [ Parent ]
    Proof? (0.00 / 0)
    I could care less what your position is. I was focusing on your approach and name calling. You can, as Darwin said, disagree with Kyle all you want. You each have your opinions. But to accuse him of what you did was way below the belt and uncalled for. And, given the respect Kyle has among the progressives in this state, you probably just alienated a lot of people who are the very ones that beat the street on a regular basis. They're the ones already working hard with OFA and the unions.

    But I tell you what.....I'm inviting you to come to Nebraska. I will take you to one of the smaller, more rural areas, and have you speak with some rural Democrats. You can pitch your health care ideas, and talk about what you think of Nelson. But the condition will be that we bring up what Kyle wrote and then you give them, verbatim, all the information on how you feel about Kyle and his position - including the parts where you've stated you think anyone that could show some support to Nelson is no supporter of health care reform. I'll even give you my email address to discuss it further. But the meeting would be with farmers and ranchers and basic, wonderful, normal, average small-town Nebraskans who are also Democrats.

    Contact me if you're interested:  lisaks@inebraska.com

    One more thing....I can't find on your website who all is involved as staff for PCCC. Your's is the only name I saw and that's on the FEC filings as treasurer. Thanks.  


    [ Parent ]
    Lisa give it up (0.00 / 0)
    Lisa give it up. Adam is one of those Washington Insiders in love with his own voice and words.

    He can claim the high ground here arguing substance (though anyone notice he didn't cite any of his "facts" - where ate BTO and R when you need them? He presented polling as facts guys, c'mon!)

    When Adam attacked Nelson last month his office issued a statement in response. Adam's response to that was to call Nelson's staffer a liar. He alleges a quid pro quo - which is illegal but offers no proof to accompany his slander.

    Adam works for Howard Dean - and Nelson knows that and can spot a good foil. They did this in Montana and the White House ripped them a new one.

    Adam stop pretending to represent the president. you don't. He's never called a friend like Ben Nelson a liar.



    [ Parent ]
    Uhhhhhh. (0.00 / 0)
    HS,

    Howard Dean no longer runs the DFA ... hasn't for a while.  


    [ Parent ]
    Not true (0.00 / 0)
    Dean is back now that he's no longer with the DNC.

    [ Parent ]
    You are incorrect. (0.00 / 0)
    James Dean, Howard's brother is still the chair of DFA.  

    [ Parent ]
    cmon (0.00 / 0)
    Dean's vbrother runs it. His staff is paid through it. And it mirros the work he's doing exactly. He may not officially be the leader but he's the founder and still benefits from it. DFA is Howard Dean. Everybody understands that.

    [ Parent ]
    Please get your facts straight (0.00 / 0)
    I don't work for Howard Dean.

    And yes, Nelson's staffer is a liar.

    He claimed: A) There is no public option proposal, B) Barack Obama has no public option proposal, C) Ben Nelson never opposed the public option.

    In fact: A) There is and was a public option proposal, B) Barack Obama had a public option proposal, C) Ben Nelson called the public option a "deal breaker."

    The shoe fits. Nelson's staffer lies. Nelson too is willing to lie. It's a shame. But it's true. Why are you defending these people?


    [ Parent ]
    you might as well (0.00 / 0)
    your politics are as welcome in Nebraska as Dean's are.

    [ Parent ]
    Dean's politics in Nebraska (0.00 / 0)
    It is good to see you admitting that Howard Dean's politics are more than welcome in this state, HS. In fact everyone in the NDP pantheon lauded Dean's 50 State Strategy for their incredible success with Obama and the 1 (one) electoral college vote we got from CD2 in 2008. The previous NDP administration was so smitten by the 50 state strategy that they emulated it by instituting their own NDP 93 County Strategy.

    I would venture to say that the recent, much touted, Gallup poll (shouted out by NDP National Committeeman, Vince Powers, among others) indicating that Nebraskans now lean 43% Democratic to 42% Republican, could be directly contributed to a more Dean-like approach towards politics in this state.


    [ Parent ]
    Watch it (0.00 / 0)
    Howard Dean brought the Democratic Party back from the brink of extinction after the brutal whoopings we got in the 2004 elections. Who knows there the party would be without him.

    [ Parent ]
    That might be the most ridiculous statement ever posted on this blog. (0.00 / 0)


    [ Parent ]
    NOPE! (0.00 / 0)
    That statement looks like just the facts.  Even if it isn't 100%, it can't hold a candle to your own "85%" lie presented as "Fact."  You get my vote for
    the most ridiculous statement ever posted on this blog.

    Is Rush Limbaugh sharing his meds with you Hukster?  You seem to have a lot of trouble dealing with facts & reality?


    [ Parent ]
    If you honestly don't believe that (0.00 / 0)
    Then you're an idiot with an agenda. The 50 State Strategy worked.

    [ Parent ]
    Nope - wrong. (0.00 / 1)
    I most definitely did not attack Kyle because I disagree with him. People can disagree, that's fine.

    This is not about difference of opinions. This is about truth in labeling. Kyle is not a progressive and he pretends to be. He's like Third Way or the DLC. Fake progressives need to be called out.

    No real "premiere progressive voice" would marginalize progressives who represent 76% of American and 71% of rural Americans on the public option issue as "left-wing Democrats." That's right-wing framing. IF Kyle wanted to disagree with progressives, that's fine -- but marginalizing them with right-wing frames? Real progressives don't do that.

    Equally telling, Kyle said that holding Nelson accountable was off limits because it would help Republicans in 2012. That's party hackery, not progressivism. Elections are the means, the agenda is the end. If we could pass a progressive health care reform now, that's a once in a lifetime opportunity. Ben Nelson is undermining that. And Democrats shouldn't hold him accountable because of 2012? Hack.

    Sorry, Lisa, but you keep playing the Nebraska card but ignoring the obvious facts above. This is about truth in labeling, and you don't need to be physically in Nebraska typing on a keyboard to know that Kyle is not a progressive.


    [ Parent ]
    Oh well (0.00 / 0)
    Kyle is not a progressive and he pretends to be.

    You know what? Those that know Kyle, the work he's done over the years, the fact he has always called politicians out when he feels the need to be.....we KNOW Kyle. You don't. You went to the extreme and you've pissed off a lot of progressives in the very state you're trying to reach out to. The fact that you don't see what you did as an attack on a person, when you could have just stuck to attacking the message, and without ever considering the body of work that has been done by that person, speaks volumes about you.

    You are nothing but a paid, political hack, and the people who know better know your claim is crap. Like I said, people will stick to dealing with the organizations they know they can trust, not ones that come in and go after people who have had far more impact on progressive issues in this state than you ever will.

    Still waiting to hear who the staff is and who's in charge of PCCC.  


    [ Parent ]
    Lisa... (0.00 / 0)
    ...I think this point is irrelevant but Adam is in charge of the PCCC. I looked up an email I got from them about a month ago and introduced the list to the staff. Here's what it says:

    Forrest Brown

    Hi, I'm Forrest. I'm working to recruit smart, skilled progressives who have talents that congressional campaigns could really use -- like web design, video editing, Spanish language skills, or even just a few hours of time to volunteer. Too often, candidates don't know where to find this talent. The PCCC's "Next Generation of Talent" project will bring candidates and talent together. (You can sign up here.)

    Sahar Massachi

    As a Brandeis student, I'm very involved in progressive youth activism, working with other student leaders around the country. So this summer, I'm contacting hundreds of student leaders each week about lending their skills to progressive candidates and getting others at their school involved with our "Next Generation of Talent" project.

    Ashleigh Crocker

    Hi. My summer project is researching over 500 consultants that Democratic candidates used last cycle, to learn which ones are great and which ones are not-so-great. We'll make this analysis available to progressive candidates so that when you give them a $25 contribution, you know that money isn't being wasted.

    Michael Snook

    I was recently the Targeting Director and Data Analyst on Rep. Tom Perriello's (D-VA) upset victory against Republican Virgil Goode in Virginia. I've been helping the PCCC since the beginning, and thanks to NormDollar's success I can now get even more involved. This summer, I'll be looking at 2010 congressional districts, analyzing our chances of victory in places across the country.

    DeVeria Flowers

    Hi, I'm DeVeria. I'm working with the PCCC on operations and accounting, as I've done with many other progressive organizations. This is a great cause and I'm happy to be part of it.

    Evan Miller

    I'm a student at George Washington University. I've been working on the PCCC's web design, including a soon-to-be-announced initiative that will reward bold members of Congress. (Stay tuned!!) I also had the honor of telling Norm Coleman's funders face-to-face how much money they raised for progressives.

    Max Berger

    I'm Max Berger, a Reed College student. My fellowship with the PCCC specializes in video editing. My first project was the video of Evan and Sahar telling Coleman's funders about the "Dollar a Day" campaign. Now, I'm editing dozens of WeWantThePublicOption.com ads, which we're rotating onto TV with your signatures.

    Ridiculous point. I'm not sure what you were trying to prove here.


    [ Parent ]
    My point (0.00 / 0)
    ....was I just wanted to know WHO this group is. I went to their website and the FEC and found very little. Just as I can't stand when the right-wing groups come out and don't give clear disclosure of who they are on their websites and in required public reports, I don't like it when left-leaning groups do it either. It was that simple of a reason. Thanks for posting that information.  

    [ Parent ]
    Lisa the Irony is... (0.00 / 0)
    Adam's group doesn't have to disclose things like donors etc. But his group uses the requirements for disclosure they dont adhere to in attacks against politicians like Ben Nelson.

    Adam is a hypocrite. We won't know his quid pro quo becasue he doesn't disclose who is paying for his salary. But let me guess - Dean's brother works there, his staff works there and they must all be working for free!


    [ Parent ]
    FEC (0.00 / 0)
    The FEC reports to date only show about $11,500 Itemized, and over $200,000 unitemized. But they got their initial start up money ($5,000) from Moveon.org. They also get in-kind contributions from DFA for their website. But most of their money has not been required to be reported. Take it for what it's worth.  

    [ Parent ]
    How dare they... (0.00 / 0)
    ...follow the rules! Please, if the FEC didn't require Ben Nelson to disclose his donors he wouldn't either so let's not attack these groups for following the rules. There are a lot of wholes in our election system -- this is one of them -- but it isn't the groups fault.

    [ Parent ]
    Rules? Rules? We don't need no stinking rules! (0.00 / 0)
    If Ben Nelson were to come clean on what he did with the NDP Coordinated Campaign back in 2006 there would be some hell to pay and, I would imagine, several people in some pretty hot water with the FEC.

    [ Parent ]
    Pure insanity (0.00 / 0)
    Prove something you claim. for once. please.


    [ Parent ]
    Evidence (0.00 / 0)
    That's ironic, coming from some anonymous S.O.B. that has never proven a damned thing ... ever.

    I wonder if Mark Fahleson would be interested in hearing the evidence I, and others, have? Maybe you'll get your wish Huskersolo.


    [ Parent ]
    You have issues... (0.00 / 0)
    Who the hell do you think you are, the "progressive" police ?! If Mr. High-and-Mighty Adam Green tells us that Kyle is not a real progressive, then it must be so! Your idea of being a progressive is obviously so rigid there is no room for anyone to have a differing opinion than yours. You are just as bad as a republican...and you're annoying to boot. In your own words, you are P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C.  

    [ Parent ]
    Kyle - progressive? (0.00 / 0)
    At times - yes. Often - not so much.

    Personally, I gotta admit that I kind of like Kyle. He's done what he believes in and is usually fairly consistent in his rantings. We don't often agree, and he tried to get me impeached out of the Nebraska Democratic Party a couple of times, but I found that humorous more than enraging. I probably have enjoyed tweaking his nose a bit too much over the past few years, but hey, he makes it fun.

    In comparison to most Nebraskans, yeah, Kyle could be considered "progressive," but it is because most of this state's citizens are just so damned "regressive." Is he what I would consider a "progressive?" No. But then again, I picked up some very socialist traits from living in Italy for over a dozen years.

    I have no qualms about holding Nelson's feet to the fire, whether it "helps" Republicans or not. If he's going to expect help from Democrats, then I expect him to help us back. Otherwise Sen. Nelson is helping Republicans far more than what my criticizing him has done. Kyle is like a lot of other Nebraska Democrats. They're kind of like Husker football fans. As long as someone is wearing their uniform, they're huge fans, even if they suck at what they do.

    As for Lisa, I consider her to be about as much of a Democrat as is Ben Nelson. I'm sure she'll take that as a compliment.

    Hruska's Colon is just a PITA.


    [ Parent ]
    Maybe the rest of the country resents Nebraska (4.00 / 1)
    holding the rest of the country hostage.  Doesn't matter the issue, Nelson votes with the Republicans.
    If you want their policies to continue, why don't you guys just elect a Republican and get it over with?

    The fact that Nelson disagrees isn't the issue.  What is the issue is that he is an obstructionist standing in the way of the majority of Americans who voted for change. If Nebraska is out of the step with the country, I don't care.  Just quit foisting it on the rest of us.  

    I am one of the people helping to fund the ad being run against him, and I plan to fund his Republican opponent when Nelson runs for re-election.  At least Democrats in name only will quit destroying the Democratic party.  

    Funny how most of the people who object to a strong public option are on this list.  

    PAC Contributions. Based on data downloaded from OpenSecrets.org, a.k.a. the Center for Responsive Politics. Contributions were tallied from two industry codes: F3200 (Accident & Health Insurance) and H3700 (HMO's). Data covers the 2004, 2006 and 2008 and 2010 campaign cycles. The fundraising data is adjusted based on the number of cycles that the senator has participated in as a Congressman (including time spent in the House of Representatives) or as a candidate, where 2010 is treated as 1/8th of a cycle since one quarterly report has so far been filed from the two-year period. So, for example, a senator that ran for and won office in 2006 is treated as participating in 2 1/8th out of a possible 3 1/8th cycles: 2006 as a candidate, and then 2008 and the fractional cycle in 2010 as a senator.

    Top recipients of PAC money from these industries since 2004 are as follows:

    Senator            Cycles     PAC #
    Baucus (D-MT)      3.125      $141,250
    McConnell R-KY)    3.125      $110,750
    Nelson (D-NE)      3.125      $106,123
    Kyl (R-AZ)         3.125      $106,000
    Gregg (R-NH)       3.125      $103,500
    Grassley (R-IA)    3.125      $95,000
    Lincoln (D-AR)     3.125      $91,000
    Enzi (R-WY)        3.125      $87,000
    Chambliss (R-GA)   3.125      $86,750
    Ensign (R-NV)      3.125      $85,750
    ======================================
    AVERAGE SENATOR               $37,267



    [ Parent ]
    There Is No Place Like Nebraska.... (0.00 / 0)
    I thought the nation resented Nebraska because of our stellar football program and team?

    Oh wait, that was back when Tom Osborne ruled as 'Dear Leader' of this state.....


    [ Parent ]
    Going to extremes (0.00 / 0)
    Another out-of-stater? You said:

    Doesn't matter the issue, Nelson votes with the Republicans.

    What issues specifically? But since you said it doesn't matter, you think it's all the time. But lets see what he's voted for:

    • SCHIP
    • Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
    • Lieberman-Warner Climate Security Act
    • Renewable Energy and Jobs Creation Act
    • Ensuring Continued Access to Student Loans Act
    • Higher Education Opportunity Act
    • Improving Head Start Act
    • Fair Minimum Wage Act
    • Medicare Fair Prescription Price Act of 2007

    That's just a few.
    I plan to fund his Republican opponent when Nelson runs for re-election.

    So.....because you don't like Nelson, who does support Democratic issues more often than not in his votes, you'd rather fund a Republican who will probably NEVER vote for anything you support.

    Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.  


    [ Parent ]
    Funding Republicans... (0.00 / 0)
    ...goes to the extreme of course.

    But none of those votes you've mentioned have been politically tough votes for him to make. The only one coming close would be the Fair Pay Act which was something I was honestly surprised he voted for. It's worth noting as well that Nelson played a key role in watering down the Recovery Act in a number of ways -- I think we all remember the "student loans" fights here at NNN.

    He is also hedging on Sotomayor, far from an ally on real health care reform, opposed to cap and trade, and let's not even start talking about all the killer amendments he's backed. At the end of the day, it's less about Nelson being conservative and it's more about him being cautious.


    [ Parent ]
    The OWH is reporting he is going ot back Sotomayor... (0.00 / 0)
    I havent read the article but i saw the headline.

    [ Parent ]
    Republican only States (0.00 / 0)
    Interesting you never said you would fund a Democratic opponent in the primary.  In other words it is Democratic Nebraskans you do not support.  Nebraska is supposed to be Republican only.  That explains the ad.  I bet some leaders in the Nebraska GOP  would really like to meet you.  You're there kinda person.  
    You GOP lovers had the majority four year ago.  You all did real swell.
    If you support a Republican than you are no better than they are.  Would we even be discussing this if Nelson were a Republican.  NO! The public option would be totally of the table.  
    If you throw in the other Democrats who might not vote the way you like we could be as united as the Republicans.  Of course we would probably be at 40% too.  You see when we start getting down to only the true keepers-of-the-flame then the Party shrinks rapidly.
    The reason the Democrats have a 60 vote Senate is because they win elections in places like Nebraska and Republicans can not win Senate races in Massachusetts or New York.

    [ Parent ]
    You can tell... (0.00 / 0)
    how weak someone's arguments have become, when they resort to accusing their opponents of sleeping with the enemy.

    If Nelson were a Republican, the overwhelming majority of people on this site would be working to defeat him, and they'd all be applauding that ad.


    [ Parent ]
    sleeping with the enemy!! (0.00 / 0)

    Gee Darwin where did I get the idea he was sleeping with the enemy.
    Oh right here it is.

    "I plan to fund his Republican opponent when Nelson runs for re-election."

    Did he say he wanted to fund a Democrat who challenged Nelson in the primary? No.
    He said he wants a Republican. To him a Republican will be better than a Democrat in that seat.
    If you had read his post you would know exactly why I accused him of sleeping with the enemy.  He admits it openly, in fact he almost brags about it.
    It is not the weakness of my arguements it is the value of actually reading what is said and thinking.

    You also concluded that if Nelson were a Republican we would be against him.
    That is what I like about you Darwin.  You are so damn quick.  Democrats would oppose Republicans.  Ya think?? Only in America!!

     


    [ Parent ]
    Well, I'm glad you admit... (0.00 / 0)
    that you don't care where Nelson stands on the issues as long as he has a big "D" next to his name.  I expect a little more from my politicians.  That oakland wishes to see a single Democratic candidate defeated does not mean he is a "GOP lover."  I'm guessing you know that, but it is easier to hurl petty insults than defend a man whose actions are indefensible.  You almost make Adam Green look perfectly reasonable.

    By the way, "Havelka," your sockpuppet is showing.


    [ Parent ]
    Hello (0.00 / 0)
    I always use my name.  I find no necessity to hide behind a false name.  I have two different computers and use two different names.
    You are right that I want a Democrat in the seat rather than a Republican.  Any Democrat with a brain would.  The rules of the Senate  weigh party affiliation very heavily.  Party affiliations determine who is and who is not in the majority.  They also determine committee sizes and which party controls those committees.  The Democrats held a majority with Zell Miller's vote in 2002.
    Did you think it was an accident the DSCC shoveled millions to fund Nelson's re-election?
    So someone who would fund money to defeat a Democrat in 2012 would be working against the interests of the Democratic party.  That is a matter of simple math.  Any "D" is better than and "R" in that senate seat.

    [ Parent ]
    "ANY" D (0.00 / 0)
    The problem is, Tom, that by repeatedly throwing 100% of our support to a guy that returns the love only 60% of the time (or less) we very likely are making it nearly impossible for a better candidate to emerge.

    One of the principle reasons the Democratic Party has lost its foothold in Nebraska is because we haven't got the resources to get our message out to the people. When I turn on the radio and all I can get is Rush LImbaugh and his ilk, and the only real statewide newspaper might as well be a branch of the Republican Party, then we need to foster alternatives. DFA and DCCC are willing to buy media that can do that for us. So what do we do in thanks? We kick 'em in the teeth.

    We deserve to be the perennial also-runs in this state when we do that.


    [ Parent ]
    your equation (0.00 / 0)
    BTO - your equation proves that Nelson is doing the right thing.

    100% of your support is good for about 35% of the vote. Nelson needs nearly 100% of the moderates and liberal republicans to get to 51%. So a 60% return on a 35% investment is pretty good for NE liberals, no?


    [ Parent ]
    You have a funny definition... (0.00 / 0)
    of the phrase "right thing" when it involves a political calculation rather than what is best for the people of the state of Nebraska.  I suspect Senator Nelson has the same dictionary.

    [ Parent ]
    Right (wing) thing as defined in the Fox News Dictionary n/t (0.00 / 0)


    [ Parent ]
    Adam... (0.00 / 0)
    thank you for replying here.  I tried to create an account at Open Left so I could respond to you there but, for some reason, I was unable to do so.

    Kyle and I do not agree on may things and we have bumped heads over a number of issues. I am sure I have called him worse things than a party hack.  But, he has created this website which is open to a wide range of voices, including mine.  For that, the liberal/progressive community in Nebraska owes him their gratitude.   NNN is, indeed, "the state's premiere source of progressive online political commentary."

    I don't think anybody tells Kyle what to write, and while, when it comes to Nelson, he often takes a spare-the-rod approach that makes me cringe, he has never shied away from criticism where he thought it was due.

    I, at one time, toyed with the idea of starting my own blog. But it would be light on content and, most likely, readership.  I believe I can get much more exposure posting at this site.

    Kyle may not be as progressive as you or I like, but this is, after all, Nebraska.  I would probably place Kyle as a moderate on this site.  I consider myself not a progressive, but a liberal.  I don't know where you stand on the political spectrum, but it's not unlikely you are to the Right of me.  Would that make me justified in calling you a fake progressive blogger?


    [ Parent ]
    If... (0.00 / 0)
    during one the most important fights of our lifetimes, you were standing up for a progressive position supported by 76% of Americans, and I wrote you off as the "left-wing of the Democratic Party" while going to bat for a corporate Democrat the way Kyle did...yes. You'd be absolutely write to call me that.

    I'm still waiting for someone to go line by line of what Kyle wrote and make some case -- any case -- for how a progressive could have written that.

    Please, debunk me.  


    [ Parent ]
    I disagree with almost everything... (0.00 / 0)
    Kyle has written here.  But, it is so clear to me that you are in the wrong here.

    Kyle supports health care reform, and I am reasonably sure he supports the public option.  He just believes we should go about advocating for that without directly challenging Senator Nelson.  I disagree with him on that, but it does not mean he does not support progressive issues.  

    You seem to be the hack here.  A skilled writer could have made his points without the petty insults.

    By the way, what you meant was I'd be r-i-g-h-t to call you that.


    [ Parent ]
    more insults (0.00 / 0)
    Calling Nelson names like corporate democrat makes you look bad Adam.

    [ Parent ]
    Welcome to "the Good Life" Adam (4.00 / 2)
    I take no offense whatsoever with anyone that is able to come out here to this deeply Republican territory that is Nebraska to knock some sense into my fellow Nebraskans' thick skulls. With Nelson apologists in abundance, it is a wonder we accomplish anything out here that isn't a dictate of the Republican Party.

    I don't understand the mantra of "Nebraska politics." It's as if we were expected to be immune to anything that even approaches liberalism, and we're just supposed to forget about ever advancing this state out of it's Rush Limbaugh induced delirium. I say that so long as we never raise a fist to fight the hegemony of the right in this state, that we are destined to be subject to its whims until doomsday.

    Too many in the Nebraska Democratic Party have accepted Ben Nelson as the best we can do. I've seen so many of them swoon over him when he walks into a room that you'd think he was Brad Freaking Pitt! They're generally those that love to get their picture taken with party bigshots, probably because it is the only brush with fame they'll ever have.

    You don't need to "UNDERSTAND NEBRASKA" to understand what has happened here. There are far too many that have surrendered to what they consider the inevitable, permanent minority status of Democrats in this state. Once you accept that, it is far too easy to accept Ben Nelson as the status quo.

    What we really need here in Nebraska is something that you, Adam, and others like you, from places other than Nebraska, can help us with. We don't have the resources to inundate the media with the messages we need to take back this state. I, for one, welcome your "interference." I welcome it because you have been able to do for us what we have not been able to accomplish on our own - get a message with the TRUTH out to the people of Nebraska.

    Thank you.


    [ Parent ]
    Thanks Brian. (0.00 / 0)
    Happy to help.

    For others who are bold progressives, I invite you to join the Progressive Change Campaign Committee at http://BoldProgressives.org


    [ Parent ]
    Bully (0.00 / 0)
    Adam your tactics cost you the last time you tried this stunt. Editorial Boards across the state criticized you and your organization for "lying" about Ben Nelson.

    People here know Ben, nobody knows you. All you did last time is give Nelson the political cover he needs (in the form of fawning editorials praising his approach) to do what he wants to do. You and your Howard Dean group are not helping.

    Your tactics are despicable. You resort to name calling and insults and lies when Nelson is trying to conduct a civilized debate/approach to the issue. Other special interest groups in DC are emabarassed by your tactics and the White House doesn't appreciate them.

    You personally attacked Nelson's staff last time. Now you are personally insulting him. You should be embarassed. I bet your parents are embarrassed for you.


    [ Parent ]
    actually (0.00 / 0)
    our campaign last time won widespread praise. you seem to have a pattern of getting your facts wrong.

    (and thanks for bringing up my parents -- classy.)


    [ Parent ]
    The state's largest papers ridiculed you (0.00 / 0)
    praise within the DFA staff meeting doesn't mean anything. Sorry for getting down in the gutter with you - your namecalling and misrepresentations got under my skin. Go back to where you came from.

    [ Parent ]
    Yeah... (0.00 / 0)
    ...because we all know how great the Omaha World Herald editorial page is. I mean, they endorsed Tony Raimondo, Hal Daub, and every Republican and conservative talking point they can get their hands with. As a progressive, I'd take being condemned by the World Herald as a badge of honor.

    [ Parent ]
    Ok then... (0.00 / 0)
    What about the South Sioux paper and the Lincoln paper? are they right wingers too?

    Adam Green has been ridiculed by Nebraska opinion leaders - many of the same who have taken Ben Nelson to task in the past. You probably revel when Nelson is the target don't you?



    [ Parent ]
    I do not (0.00 / 0)
    I actually like Sen. Nelson but he's wrong here and should be taken to task here. I think the reason you're so up in arms about is that the ads are working. I don't see you flipping a shit about ads from conservative groups. And, I don't see you flipping a shit or Nelson condemning the astorturf groups hijacking town halls across the country.

    May I see a link to the Journal Star editorial you mentioned?


    [ Parent ]
    Here you go: (0.00 / 0)
    Couldn't find a link but had sent it around so dug it out of an email:

    LINCOLN JOURNAL STAR EDITORIAL BLOG
    06/01/09
    02:29:56 pm, Categories: Global by Gordon Winters
    Nelson-bashing in vogue

    Nebraska Sen. Ben Nelson always has been in the middle politically. It's that characteristic...virtue?...that has allowed him to thrive in Republican-dominated Nebraska.

    It seems to have become considerably more uncomfortable for him in Washington since Democrats overran the place.

    This has been most evident recently if the thrashing he's taken for allegedly rejecting a government-run health insurance plan that would compete with private insurance plans.

    With jockeying on health reform still in it's early stages, Nelson already is being flogged by an advertising campaign.

    You don't have to dip very deep into the blogosphere to find Nelson referred to with obscenities and vulgarities.

    Nelson tried to explain his stance more clearly in Don Walton's story on Sunday. Maybe that will take some of the heat off, at least temporarily.

    As Politico.com's Lisa Lerer observed in a column in March, Nelson's moderation sometimes makes him the "most powerful politician in America." And, she wrote, "his playful sense of humor makes it tough to be angry at him for too long. He's engaged in an ongoing war of pranks with Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.). As retaliation for an April Fool's joke, Nelson snuck into her office when she was on the Senate floor and rearranged all her furniture, hung up a Nebraska banner and taped photos of himself in hunting gear on all of her picture frames."

    Back when the Republicans were still a force to be reckoned with in Washington, Nelson was courted for his support, and occasionally flew with the president on Air Force One. Apparently the liberal wing of his own party prefers to kick and claw to win Nelson' vote.




    [ Parent ]
    Childish and extreme... (0.00 / 0)
    While I don't necessarily agree with Kyle on this one I think that Adam Green has gone off the deep end and is just being childish now. After reading his post it seems like he is throwing a temper tantrum. He certainly isn't helping his cause. If he wants people to read his "response" to Kyle's post maybe he shouldn't have acted like such a diva. Health care is too important an issue for this crap!

    [ Parent ]
    Dean Barker... (0.00 / 0)
    over at the dkos version of Adam's diary summed it up pretty well.

    I can't believe someone doing the yeoman's work of state blogging - in a state as challenging for democrats as Nebraska - is being called out in a diary title as a "Fake...Progressive Blogger" because he doesn't like a TV ad. And that the diary is recommended.

    This diary is stepping on the hard work of unpaid state bloggers to leverage attention to an advocacy ad.



    [ Parent ]
    yep, and I responded to Dean (0.00 / 0)
    I respect Dean a lot, as I do most state-level bloggers who call themselves progressive. I work with them all the time.

    Here is my on Kos to Dean's point:

    The fact that this blogger is local doesn't make him progressive. I'm fine with local party hacks blogging. I won't tell them not to speak. I will tell them not to call themselves "the premiere" progressive voice.


    [ Parent ]
    Can you get through a minute... (0.00 / 0)
    of your day without insulting others? Is that how you get your rocks off? Everyone else is stupid and Im the  smartest. Your are embarrassing yourself.

    [ Parent ]
    What Nelson struggles for (0.00 / 0)
    Sen. Nelson doesn't necessarily struggle to do what's best for the people of Nebraska.  Nelson struggles to retain enough vestiges of Democratic Party credentials while retaining the support of the Nebraska business community, many of whom are his neighbors in Omaha.

    To that end, he cannot engage them (or the public) in any real education on the best policy, because they have no interest in going beyond the buzz words of "lower taxes" and "less government" and "private is always better."

    To their credit, they put their money where their mouth is in many instances and support some innovative educational programs and some causes that veer towards the progressive, like stem cell research.  But they cannot conceive of health care as other than a for profit industry.

    The other struggle Nelson has is with Nebraska provincialism.  "We don't need outsiders telling us what to think" wasn't what he said when oustide groups came in and funded the anti-gay marriage amendment years ago.  And if an economic analysis doesn't come from the craven Ernie Goss at Creighton, or a UNL "study", it can't have any relevance for Nebraska.

    Ben Nelson is very much entwined with insurance interests because that is where he made his money.  But I am not suggesting that he is totally corrupt and I believe he would like to do the right thing.

    It would probably be better to remove the special interest money reference and just focus on the substance of the policy, which is that Nebraskans are suffering under the staus quo.  The other just provides a distraction.


    Amen (0.00 / 0)
    Very thoughtful post.  

    [ Parent ]
    If.... (4.00 / 2)
    If Ben Nelson would like to do the right thing, then all he has to do ... is the right thing.

    [ Parent ]
    Here's the real problem (0.00 / 0)
    What I find most illuminating about this controversy is the fact that Ben Nelson and his lackey Thompson, formerly of the right-wing World Herald, blame liberals for the deluge of anti-reform comments he has received, instead of placing the blame where it rightfully and obviously belongs-with right wing talk radio and Faux News.  

    Perfectly illustrates why the NDP continues to gain no ground while most of the country has taken a sharp turn to the left.


    Double Standard (4.00 / 1)
    Several years ago the NRA ran an ad in the  1st District condemning Bob Kerrey for voting for the Assault Weapon Ban yet said nothing about the 1st District Republican Congressman who also voted for the same bill.  This was a deplorable double standard.  This ad does the same thing. Nowhere in this ad do I see anything condemning Terry, who actually VOTED!! against health care reform.  I only see Nelson-trashing.
    This ad has very little to do with healthcare reform.  The people behind this ad are simply exploiting an individual's unfortunate circumstance to advance their anti-Nelson agenda.
    They could have used this ad to promote the benefits of healthcare reform.  They could have encouraged us to call and write all of our Senators.  Instead they stepped on their own message by turning into an anti-Nelson screed.
    Nelson is not the issue.  Healthcare reform is the issue and we need to focus on that issue.  Engaging in Nelson-bashing might give some comfort to people looking for a scapegoat, but it is counter-productive in the long run.
    Yes this ad might have some appeal to the anti-Nelson people in the Party.  But they are going to despise Nelson with or without this ad.

    I endorse this view! (0.00 / 0)


    [ Parent ]
    I second that! (0.00 / 0)
    I know enough Democrats that have questions still and it seems like the views are as numerous as the number of people with them. Encourage Nelson to get the best reform possible, explain why you don't support some things to him so he understands, tell your stories, etc. I think everyone wants this to succeed, but part of Democracy is being able talk about all the different views and find the best path to that success.

    [ Parent ]
    Tom (0.00 / 0)
    I oppose Sen. Nelson because he has, time and again, gone against the Nebraska Democratic Party. I am a member of the NDP and NOT a member of the "I love Ben Nelson more than you do" party. My allegiances are aligned with those of Nebraska's Democrats, not with those of just one man.

    [ Parent ]
    Cut the Crap (0.00 / 0)
    Just for curiosity.  Who would have been more faithful to the Democratic principles you endorse??  Stenberg or Ricketts?

    Politics is about choices. Most people understand that.  Most of us could look at Ben Nelson and Pete Ricketts and  make an easy choice.  Do we agree with every vote he made.  NO!  Most of the Nebraska Democrats I know disagree with many votes he casts.  However you wrap yourself in self-righteouness and claim some divine purity because you did not vote for him.  There is nothing noble in copping out.  Not voting makes you just as responsible for the bad and not responsible for the good.  You simply let others uphold you responsibility and then wish to divorce yourself from the result.

    You sound as silly as Nader voters ranting on about the purity of their vote in 2000 while W and his gang of crooks and cronies walked into the White House.


    [ Parent ]
    Tom (0.00 / 0)
    You just pegged my bullshit meter.

    [ Parent ]
    No, you're wrong and I'll tell you why... (3.00 / 1)
    Nelson is movable and in a position to effect health care reform.

    That's key.

    Groups like PCCC, DFA, Change Congress, etc... have made the goal passing meaningful health care reform in 2009. Lee Terry doesn't play a part in that because 1) he's a loser who votes with the leadership 99% of the time and 2) he isn't in any position to really effect the final legislation based on his position in the GOP and the fact that House is basically locked up.

    Nelson is a key vote in the Senate and is the one who should be targeted. These groups don't and shouldn't give a damn about Lee Terry -- they're job is get health care reform passed. Ours is to get Tom White elected.


    [ Parent ]
    Thanks. (0.00 / 0)
    Strategic thinking. Fresh air after some of the stuff above. Thank you.

    I'd like to formally invite you to join the PCCC if you are not already a member.
    http://www.BoldProgressives.org


    [ Parent ]
    Nonsense (0.00 / 0)
    So its okay if Terry and Johanns vote against heathcare??  
    Look at the ad.  What is their thinking?
    "Lets call the Democrat a crook because he takes campaign contributions and he will love us and vote our way."
    Finally, I do not mean to burst anybody's bubble with harsh reality.  But those "evil" campaign contributions are the reason Pete Ricketts is not in that seat.  We can't love those donations in election years, and love them we do, and then condemn them three years later.
    Finally, since Nelson has not cast any votes yet and there is not final legislation we have no idea if Nelson is "movable".  Last week House liberals were threatening to vote against healthcare unless they got what they wanted.
    Now Mr. Green made a very good point about electing Tim Johnson.  However Tim Johnson won in a sqeaker election in a state that has a higher per centage of Democrats.  Tim Johnson could not have won that election if South Dakota had Nebraska's party registration.

    [ Parent ]
    My mistake... (0.00 / 0)
    ...I responded to your comment below.

    [ Parent ]
    That is pure bullshit (0.00 / 0)
    Mr Snider does not seem like the type who would let himself be exploited.  Instead, he seems like someone who has genuine concerns and has been given the chance to express them. Were I given that opportunity I would take it in a heartbeat.  Wouldn't you?

    It is unfortunate that you would react to a perceived attack on Senator Nelson by insulting a working man from Nebraska.  If Nelson were to follow your lead I suspect we'd hear the last of him after the end of this term.

    The Agenda of the DFA vis-a-vis this ad is to push for universal healthcare.  if you are suggesting Nelson is standing in the way of universal healthcare, then yes, I suppose you could say they have an anti-Nelson agenda.  Otherwise, they could care less about him.

    As for the ad being an "anti-Nelson screed," Nelson's name isn't even mentioned until almost halfway though the ad and the graphic referring to his the money taken from special interests, which is what seems to have everyone's panties in a bind, is on the screen for about four seconds.  If Nelson can't take this, what is he going to do when he runs for re-election and he has to face some real heat?


    [ Parent ]
    Perceived Attack? (0.00 / 0)
    First the Ad does attack Senator Nelson.  That is the whole point of the ad.  They are running this ad in Nebraska for a reason. Did you happen to notice that they did not mention any other member of congress that was either for or against healthcare reform.  Finally it distorts Nelson's position. Since there are currently not enough votes in either the House or the Senate to pass any health reform measure delaying the legislation, not the implementation of the actual reform, may or may not be beneficial.  There is a legitimate debate about when is the best time to move legislation forward and when to take the time to gain additional support.  The fact that the Senate and the House have both delayed legislation, without Ben Nelson being involved might suggest that he is not the only one who thinks things are moving too fast.
    Secondly, the people behind this ad used Mr. Snider's situation to condemn Ben Nelson. That is exploitation. What you though liberals couldn't exploit someone?
    The little gratuitous slap at his campaign contributions is hardly going to make him vote their way.  If they were really serious about healthcare reform they would have simply asked Nelson to vote their way.

    [ Parent ]
    It is a directed ad. (0.00 / 0)
    It is being run in Nebraska.  Similar ads are being run elsewhere.  Johanns, Terry, et-al are not mentioned because they are currently irrelevant to the health care debate.

    The ad does not distort Nelson's position.  Nelson has said repeatedly he wants to slow down the process.  Nelson said, before the debate had hardly begun, that a public option is a deal breaker.  Tell me exactly what about the ad you think distorts his position.

    Mr. Snider's situation is similar to that of tens of millions of Americans, including myself.  The ad features a real person because asking Nelson "pretty please" would probably not work.  As long as the debate is about money, the insurance industry will win.  Make the debate about real people, we might have a chance.

    There is nothing abusive or exploitative about the ad.  You only think so because you are being exploited by the insurance industry.


    [ Parent ]
    Clearly... (0.00 / 0)
    ...you don't anything about politics or targeting.

    It would be a waste of money to target Terry or Johanns who are irrelevant in this debate both because of position and their personal politics. Nelson is a player and should be targeted because he can be moved.

    This ad isn't an exploitation. A small business owner who is being crushed by a broken system was given a voice in this debate -- anyone who believes in change and needed help would take this opportunity. Nelson advocates are feeling sore because someone called him out over his obvious conflict of interest.


    [ Parent ]
    I don't anything?? (0.00 / 0)
    Targeting means you want to get rid of him in 2012.  That is your option.  You said he should be targeted because he can be "moved".  I think you meant removed.
    You might try persuading Nelson to vote your way. You would have to be a pure idiot to think this ad could persuade Nelson to vote your way in a Republican state.  It ranks right up there with Move On's General Betrayus ad.
    Mr. Snider is not exploiting anyone.  The ad makers are using his situation to further their interest.  That is exploitation.
    We are not "sore".  We are simply not hypocrites.  Those campaign contributions you self-righteous handwringers bemoan are the reason Democrats won back both the House and the Senate in 2006 and have a 60 seat majority today.
    We can not love them in election years and hate them later on.
    Did anybody ask who funded who's election in 2006 or 2008?

    [ Parent ]
    You... (0.00 / 0)
    ...clearly don't understand the difference between electoral politics and public policy.

    Plenty of Democrats have received support from the insurance companies and aren't being owned by it but Nelson isn't one of them. He's been bought. In fact, he's already admitted to CQ politics that a public option is good for Americans and that his main objection is that it's possible insurance companies who offer an inferior product would go under. Well duh...


    [ Parent ]
    Actually (0.00 / 0)
    ...since I don't know who you are I can't compare, but I can say I know Tom, and he's got a lot of experience in Nebraska Democratic politics. He understands what he speaks about just fine.  

    [ Parent ]
    I don't know Tom... (0.00 / 0)
    ...so I can't speak to his experience. But I know he is wrong here.

    There is a huge difference between public policy and electoral politics. The goals and tactics are different and they do not go hand in hand. DFA, PCCC, etc... has one goal: pass health care reform. Not elect Democrats, or build the Nebraska Democratic Party, or destroy Lee Terry -- pass health care reform. That's why going after Nelson with ads and other tactics is the right move because he is relevant and they aren't.


    [ Parent ]
    not exactly (0.00 / 0)
    Which vote on health care do you not agree with?
    Several years ago congress rushed to push through a catastrophic healthcare plan.  It was terrible and lasted about two years and was repealed.  Had they spent a little more time on that proposal they might have had a workable plan.
    It is not a question of getting something done quickly.  It is about doing it right.  In 1965 congress moved much faster than it does today.  It took 18 months to get Medicare past and has lasted for over 40 years.
    If we passed health care tomorrow in will go into effect in 2011.  If we passed it in 6 months it will go into effect in 2011.
    Nelson has never stated he wanted to delay the implementation date.

    [ Parent ]
    Well... (0.00 / 0)
    I take issue with both Terry and Nelson's opposition to health care reform but if my goal is pass health care reform then spending any time on Lee Terry or Mike Johanns would be like burning a big pile of money. Those two are worthless in this debate and Nelson is the only one in a position of power who is movable. That's why he's being targeted.

    Also, I can tell you why that legislation didn't work. It was written by the insurance companies and shoved down our throats by the Republican Party. Much like everything they do, they screwed it up.


    [ Parent ]
    I don't get that (0.00 / 0)
    By not pressuring the other elected officials, you let them get away with whatever they want. Terry is on the House committee that has been hammering this. Every single member of that committee, both R and D, should be getting lots of pressure at home. By taking that attitude, you actually let them get away with everything they're saying and doing right here in this state. I've heard several commentaries by Yo Adrian, as well as Johanns, Terry and Fortenberry, and they are getting a free reign in doing it.

    I don't have problems with people lobbying Nelson for the type of reform they believe in. But those same people need to be doing the exact same thing to the 4 Stooges representing Nebraska in Washington.  


    [ Parent ]
    The Bottom Line (0.00 / 0)
    is that Kyle is the founder of this site and it in theory is supposed to be the place for progressive discussion, but at the same time is fighting the public option. I am OK with differing opinions of course, but this is too big an issue to have a moderate, maybe even right of center view.

    I'm sure true conservatives would be saying the same thing if a site representing itself as the "premiere" place for conservative politics in Nebraska were to waffle on big issue so drastically. Nelson deserves end of story. You can just look to how the right votes; none of them stray and if they do they are punished.


    It's also worth noting (0.00 / 0)
    That this blog enjoys the support of the national progressive infrastructure via the 50 State Blog Network. Kyle is allowed to say whatever he wants but maybe progressive institutions need to rethink their support if Kyle isn't really a progressive.

    [ Parent ]
    And that's why Republicans are losing! (0.00 / 0)
    The idea that you're pushing is the very same "our way or the highway" thinking that caused the Republicans to scare off moderates like Jim Jeffords and Arlen Specter.  It's the difference between 60 votes and 40 votes.  Seriously, have we learned nothing from what has befallen the Republican party the last two cycles?  When you push too hard on moderate members of the party, the result won't be to make them more liberal - it will be the loss not just of the moderate politicians, but the millions of moderate and independent voters who helped elect Barack Obama and the current Democratic majority.

    As for our new friends who doubt whether NNN is the "premier place for progressives", feel free to look around the web.  If the presence of a wide number of Nebraska liberals (like BTO and Darwin, for example) here isn't enough for you, I challenge you to find a better progressive site that covers Nebraska politics.  In fact, I challenge you to find a better site of any kind that covers Nebraska politics.  Trust me, you won't find better coverage with the Omaha World Herald or the Lincoln Journal-Star.

    If we would all just take a minute and tone down the rhetoric, we'd realize that we're all on NNN for the same reason - we're passionate about the issues that our representatives in Washington are grappling with every day.  But at the end of the day, if we can't accept that our fellow Democrats may differ with us on the issues that are most important to us, we're no better than the Republicans.


    [ Parent ]
    Fair Enough (0.00 / 0)
    But Nelson isn't taking a moderate position -- he's taking the conservative one, the very conservative one. The public option is supported by an overwhelming majority of Americans so it's the mainstream position. 'nuff said.

    [ Parent ]
    Preaching to the choir (0.00 / 0)
    I'm about as big a proponent of the public option as you'll find in Nebraska, and yes, I'm upset that Sen. Nelson isn't out there pushing for it instead of against it.  But I can at least (sort of) understand where Ben Nelson is coming from, given that the insurance industry is a major one in the Omaha metropolitan area.  If you take away the initial "deal-breaker" statement and its aftermath, the key language Nebraskans have been hearing from Ben Nelson lately is that he doesn't want a public option to harm the existing private insurance system.  You can choose to take that statement as Ben Nelson doing the bidding of the insurance industry, or you can choose to take that statement as Ben Nelson concerned about potential job losses in Omaha during an already difficult economic situation.  Given the long history that Ben Nelson has of working for Nebraskans, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.  Meanwhile, I'll keep letting him know how I feel to keep the pressure on him, but in a respectful way.

    When I first saw this thread, I wanted to go on a tirade about how the recent flock of "newcomers" to NNN knew nothing about Kyle, and that Mr. Green is, for lack of a better description, full of it.  To an extent, I actually disagree with Kyle's assessment of the above ad, but that doesn't excuse the despicable attacks that Kyle has been forced to endure just because he didn't fall in lock-step with his analysis of an ad-buy.


    [ Parent ]
    My point is (0.00 / 0)
    we shouldn't be letting those who represent our views go spouting anything they want without being checked. As we've said here many times, NNN claims to be the leader for progressives in Nebraska online. That means there is going to be some criticism from people when they see egregious views taken. Republicans attack in a different manner that does prove to be counter-productive.

    My point was that we must at least keep our teammates in check sometimes, that's all. It is quite curious that Kyle, coincidentally or not, has taken the side of blue dogs and moderates on this issue.


    [ Parent ]
    Am I the only one... (3.00 / 1)
    Who thinks it's laughable that people are attacking "outsiders" for running an ad against Senator Nelson that highlights the story of a local business owner? Going further, am I the only one that thinks it is hypocritical to defend Sen. Nelson's out of state contributions from the insurance industry that are clearly effecting his decisions in this debate? I hope not.

    Props to Nelson... (0.00 / 0)
    ...who will be supporting Sotomayor:

    http://omaha.com/article/20090...


    Even a broken clock... (0.00 / 0)
    I guess.

    Good on him.


    [ Parent ]
    I'm not surprised. (0.00 / 0)
    I was pretty confident his public statement was a way to keep the conservatives in this state happy so they couldn't pull their usual arguments that he's just doing what the party tells him. I was patient to see what his contemplation led to. But I'm not surprised he chose to support her. Let's just say I had faith.  

    [ Parent ]
    It does not speak well of Nelson... (0.00 / 0)
    that he felt the need to publicly contemplate his decision, given there was no legitimate reason to do so.  As for his supposed political calculations, he made no similar attempt to appease the Left given their opposition to Alito.

    [ Parent ]
    Here's my beef! (0.00 / 0)
    This is the part I don't get:
    ...unfairly accuses him of "leading the charge to delay health care reform."  That's not at all an accurate depiction of the role Nelson has actually played.
    How is that a misrepresentation? Nelson led a charge precisely to delay the reform process. That's what his letter was all about. It specifically said "we urge you to resist timelines." He wrote it. He did a media tour promoting the delay.  

    Nelson wrote a letter..... (0.00 / 0)
    Max Baucus and two other Democrats on the Finance Committee are actually bottling this thing up in committee under the increasingly suspect promise of bipartisan compromise.  I'm certain Nelson supports that effort, but he's by no means alone in that.  He's just the easiest prey.

    [ Parent ]
    Umm... (0.00 / 0)
    PCCC and DFA are running ads against Baucus too so what's your point?

    Here's the ad:



    [ Parent ]
    I guess.... (0.00 / 0)
    .....I choose not to pay attention to the other states right now. I'll stay focused on Nebraska.  

    [ Parent ]
    HuffPo: Ben Nelson Personally Calls Nebraskan Who Ripped Him In Health Care Ad (0.00 / 0)
    He was left unimpressed:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

    Hours after he appeared in a television ad attacking Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) for slow-walking health care reform, local Nebraska businessman Michael Snider received a phone call.

    It was Nelson.

    The senator wasn't pleased about the ad being released in his home state -- his office would later suggest that the ads would compel the senator to blow up the reform process altogether.

    ...

    "To be real honest with you, I don't know if he was just being aggressive or nervous but he just wanted to put out his position on the issue," Snider recalled in an interview with the Huffington Post. "He said he supported the public option but one that wouldn't affect the current plans of 200 million Americans."

    "I told him I didn't understand. And he tried to explain it. He put his position out. He said if we went with a full public option -- which he called a government plan -- it would drive the price down and hurt private companies. I said, 'you mean competition.' And he replied that it would force people off the private plan and onto the government plan."

    "That happened twice," Snider concluded. "He was telling me how bad a public option would be and when he was done I said, 'So you don't support a public option.' He would reply, 'That's not what I say.'"

    ...

    Nelson offered to try and do something to find out why his rates had risen so dramatically. But he didn't offer to do the one thing Snider wanted to hear: support the public option. And that, in the end, might end up affecting how Snider votes the next time Nelson is up for reelection.

    "I volunteered to put signs up for him," he says of Nelson's earlier runs for office. "But if he is not going to support this it is going to be real tough to support him next time around."

    That's bad press for Nelson.


    What I found most interesting about that account was this: (0.00 / 0)
    "To be real honest with you, I don't know if he was just being aggressive or nervous but he just wanted to put out his position on the issue," Snider recalled in an interview with the Huffington Post. "He said he supported the public option but one that wouldn't affect the current plans of 200 million Americans."

    "I told him I didn't understand. And he tried to explain it. He put his position out. He said if we went with a full public option -- which he called a government plan -- it would drive the price down and hurt private companies. I said, 'you mean competition.' And he replied that it would force people off the private plan and onto the government plan."

    If that is true, it paints Nelson in an entirely new light.  Instead of just being wrong on health care, he is actively working on the behalf of the insurance industry, at the expense of the American people.


    [ Parent ]
    hearsay (0.00 / 0)
    So now you attack Nelson for something his attacker said he said?? Are you serious? And nice dismissal of his support for Sotamayor.

    So he doesn't sell out his vote for a lifetime pick for the SCOTUS simply because a Democrat appointed the candidate. But then when he takes the liberal position as demanded by you and others its STILL not good enough.

    It's amazing he bothers to stay a Democrat with nonsense like that going on.


    [ Parent ]
    First of all... (0.00 / 0)
    I conditioned my statement on the presumption that it was true.  I did not say it was true.  Second, I am inclined to believe Mr. Snider's account as, in the past, Nelson has said similar things.

    As for Sotomayor, Nelson has never been a supporter.  He simply voted for her confirmation.  Lindsey Graham voted for her as well, but I don't think anyone would call her a supporter.

    I am not asking for Nelson to rubber stamp nominees just because they were nominated by a Democrat. I expect them to judge them on their merits.  The fact is, Nelson did not agonize over the nomination of Samuel Alito.  He seems to have applied a different standard to Sotomayor.  I am not the only one around here who thinks that.

    It's amazing I bother to stay a Democrat with nonsense like that going on.


    [ Parent ]
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